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I’ve noticed this whole “Receipt Checks” trend over the past two years. From the start I gave it a lot of thought, and came to the conclusion that the only place I shop that I needed to show a receipt to was Costco. Every other store is a public non membership type store, thus you are NOT required to show anything to anyone.
I’m sick of standing in lines for 10 to 15 min due to the fact that the store only wanted to staff two checkers. I WILL NOT stand in line a second time to walk out the door with stuff I have purchased. For the last two years I have politely said no thank you and kept walking. This works 98% of the time, the other two percent I do dig my heals in and ask them to 1 take their hand off my cart or 2. if the refuse ask them to call the police.
The 1 time they did call the police, I politely told the officer that ” I do not consent to a search of any kind ” , people it is your RIGHT to make this statement. WalMart and other stores bank on you not saying these MAGIC words. I am an honest person, and refuse to just give away my AMERICAN right to say these words.
People there is NO way WalMart or any other company can ever justify using this tactic, they can and will throw fancy buzz words at you but that’s all they are. Do not back down !!!! Please be polite and if questioned say , “no thank you, I do not consent to a search of any kind.” Do not fall for store policy, this is a trick to have you wave your AMERICAN rights. In todays day and age if it was store policy to not let black people in the store would you have to follow that policy ? The answer is NO ! Any Policy that is unlawful is not even worth the waste of breath it takes to recite the bogus policy.
As stated before it is only a ploy to get you tricked into waving your rights. Also if an officer of the law says you have to show the receipt politely state one more time with the officer present that, you do not consent to a search of any kind. If the officer still insists you can show HIM the receipt and ask him politely that you would like a field report on the incident.
YOU MUST GET A FIELD REPORT. If the officer does not want to give one, please politely ask for a duty officer to come to the location. Once you get your field report take it to a attorney and have him file a case, you’ll be glad you did !!!!
If you don’t get a field report and if at any time you do not re assert your right that you do not consent to a search of any kind don’t even bother trying to fight it. Your time is worth something and that includes standing in lines to get out the door for whatever reason.
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March 18th, 2009 at 1:38 am
This comment was posted by “A Real American With Some Perspective”
You got a problem with TSA x-raying your luggage too?
Our American rights protect us from the government; not WalMart, not your favorite airline, not any other private entity. The police officer, as an agent of the state, is not allowed to search you without probable cause. Just because WalMart does not charge a membership fee does not make it public entity. It is still a private business. They’re free to come up with whatever ridiculous policies they want. You’re free not to shop there. You’re also free to tell the company you think it’s a dumb policy. You’re even have the blessed AMERICAN RIGHT to criticize them over the internet. Course if you refuse to follow their policies, they’re free to refuse your business.
Next you’ll be telling us poor dumb masses that the “shirt and shoes required” policy is unAmerican too.
For goodness sake, they’re not searching your purse and pockets. Bottom line – if someone is walking out of my home with a bag full-o-stuff they didn’t bring in, I don’t feel unAmerican asking them if I can see what’s inside. If you don’t like it, feel free not to come back.
March 18th, 2009 at 1:39 am
This comment was posted by “unappreciated” –
Oh stop it. Walmart refusing someone’s business? Very funny.
I used to go there fairly often. Now I go on rare occasions, only one reason being the way they insult the consumer who made them what they are at the point of exit. Plus I just don’t like mega-stores.
Of course they are free to implement any policy they want, it certainly is the right of private business. But everywhere, in other areas of policy you have seen that right usurped by our government, such as not having to hire someone you do not want to, or not offering employees benefits out the wazoo. I am all for them making any policy they want. But they should advertise that you will be subject to being treated as a suspect post-purchase until they say you can leave with the items that have become your property by your favor to shop there. The consumer does not have to be a sheep, or member of a dumb mass.
The points of all this are these: the policy stinks, there is a better way to actual shoplifters, it is good idea to show customers you appreciate their business and not the contrary by insulting them every time they make a genuine purchase in good faith and mutual trust, no real shoplifter is going to get caught going back into the store and placing things in their cart in plain view after having gone through the checkout, the receipt checkers aren’t really checking anything for accuracy and it all seems just a bluff as the items are not priced, and finally, have they ever heard of cameras? Why don’t they just really thank us by placing an airport security unit in there and make us take our shoes off before wagging our not really cheaper items to the car? (The puppy collars I did not buy there for $2.94 each were $1.00 each at Kroger, identical brand color, everything, so watch them).
Walmart, please get a life, stop whining over your billions, and think about it; who ever thought “malls” would see their demise? It’s happening all over the country, vacant mall ghosttowns. The consumer DOES have the keys to the retail kingdom. To the “Real American with some perspective”, policies should be productive and meaningful, like “no shirt, no shoes, no service”, has a health benefit, for guess who? The Consumer who is being considered (and wooed), not accused or insulted post-parting with dollars. Walmarts policy is simply for them, but is mindless, as it repels honest consumers. They aren’t the only bad vendors, the selfish ungrateful policies of banking institutions are horrible. And I agree, Walmart has the right to have any policies they desire, and should. They also should put the “we don’t trust that you just bought those things you wheeled through check-out” in writing for all to see, in their printed advertisements. You are right also that the consumer should just not shop there if the policies are anti-consumer, distasteful, offensive and ungrateful.
I think sites like this are just like the old timey suggestion box you used to see in establishments where the businesses actually tried to improve to the liking of the customers without whom they cease to exist.
March 27th, 2009 at 3:11 am
“Next you’ll be telling us poor dumb masses that the “shirt and shoes required” policy is unAmerican too.”
Yes. It is. If I want to go barefoot, why should it not be allowed? It’s NOT against any health codes.
http://www.barefooters.org/
April 5th, 2009 at 1:02 am
@ “A Real American With Some Perspective”:
The simple fact here is that once you’ve made your transaction at the register, the contents of your shopping bag no longer belong to the retailer; they now belong to YOU.
There is absolutely no difference between asking to check your bags and asking you to empty your pockets. The store does not have a right to do either.
…and for the record, I DO have a problem with TSA checking my luggage, as well as checking my ID. TSA is a government mandated entity and under should not be searching my person or my belongings without reasonable and just cause.
Believe me, I understand your perspective, but we’re talking about RIGHTS here – which when not exercised have a tendency to just go away.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
What “rights” are you talking about? You do not have any rights other than those rights granted to you by the government you prescribe to.
Taking a rule of international law, once you become a party to a treaty you are bound to that treaty until the expiration of said treaty. The same goes for individual personal sovereignty within a country. once you become a party to a country you are bound to the constraints that country holds among its inhabitants. You elect officials to make decisions on your behalf, it is your right to take appropriate action through legitimate channels to alter such decisions. Or you have the option of leaving.
In regards to the comment made at some point to laws being enacted on discrimination based on race or ethnicity. The fact is that there a laws requiring the hiring of persons based on race and not on merit. This is commonly known by the name of “Affirmative Action”, on a further note private employers are still allowed to discriminate on the basis of race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, gender, or even eye color if they chose to do so, although many companies do have policies against this to encourage diversity in the workplace.
As I am sure you will not be inclined to believe what I am talking about please learn for yourselves…
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3129
April 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Ryan thinks:
“You do not have any rights other than those rights granted to you by the government”
Oh, dear.
This is what we get as a result of dumbing down our public education systems for decades.
The people have all rights and powers, whether or not they’re enumnerated in the Constitution or any other governmental document.
The government, at all its levels, only has the powers which are given to it by the people.
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May 9th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Half of the cameras are not even hooked up. I worked at Wal-Mart in the Security section where I watched the ones that do work ALL DAY LONG!!!! The trick to shoplifting at Wal-Mart is to GET OUTSIDE THE DAMN DOOR!!!! Once you are outside the door they cant do shit to you. RUN MUTHU FUCKA!!! LOL!!! Even when you walk back in the next day for seconds…..They cant do anything to you…If they do catch you..put the stuff down. Its not shoplifting until you walk out of the store and then once your out the door they cant do shit… See the cycle…
Your welcome for the help….
P.S
If your hungry while your in there, grab somthing from the deli, like some chicken, when your done eating it…put it down and leave….!!!
June 10th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Ya know what people, your a bunch of whino’s get over it, you have your stupid receipt in your damn hand, when you check out. IT’s not that much of an inconvience, GET OVER IT!! If people wouldn’t steal and be honest Wal-Mart wouldn’t be changing their policy’s and probably wouldn’t checki receipts so why don’t you focus on the subject of CRIME until then SHUT UP.
July 8th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Ellen, I just think it’s FUN to screw with Walmart. They have screwed with me so many times.
MKE Gal: Oh, thank you so much for calling the idiot Ryan on his “you only have whatever rights the government gives to you you” doctrine. My guess he’s next in line to run North Korea. Or Iran. Or the Taliban. Or…
I love this site.
July 20th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Whats so wrong with checking receipts. If you paid for everything then you have nothing to hide. If you didn’t pay for everything then, Ya I can see where your having a problem with them checking your receipt. I would to. You don’t have a problem with them searching you out at the airport do you. Or does that make you feel like a terrorist. I’d like to see you tell them they can’t search you. Tell them your not taking off your shoes. Rules are rules. And if people wouldn’t steal, then Wal-mart wouldn’t have to check unbagged items at the door. If you owned a store you would do whatever it took to keep thieves from stealing from you. So GROW UP people.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 am
It makes me sick that people are whining about taking a few seconds out of there lives to show a damn reciept to a 6o somthing year old doorgreeter whos just trying to do their jobs. You may not agree with the companies policy by why take out on them? 90% of people have some sorta customer service related job so have some compassion. dont take your frustation out them if you have such a big proplem and want to whine about it write the CEO!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
@nursesteph – You do realize that Walmart puts the elderly and other ‘non-threatening’ people checking your receipts for a reason? And you just highlighted it.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
You’re a tool for shopping at Walmart anyway.
August 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I know of a Myrtle Beach hotel owner who was awarded the money she bought the hotel with. Why? She was unlawfully detained and searched by a store she was shopping at. Your rights not to be searched extend to anyone. The only way Wal-mart could legally get around that is to make their store a membership club, like their sister store, Sam’s Club. There you AGREE that they have the right to search anyone entering or leaving.
August 8th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
PS to my last remark… They also have the right to refuse you any further entry into their properties. So, pick you’re fights wisely. As for me, I just hold my receipt up as I walk past the door checker.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
The WM “search” has happened to me one too many times. The last time I politely asked for a manager. When she arrived I told her I would not show her my receipt because I do not steal. She told me I was wrong in how I felt. I said thats how I feel and thats not wrong!! I asked if they would like the merchandise back? The manager would not answer me.
I also found out WM LETS someone go who they know has taken something without paying for it, and NOT STOP THEM!! This is what makes me mad. I pay, I get stopped, someone steals and is not!! Thats the true issue…….
By law WM CAN NOT stop you in THE STORE, and they CAN NOT touch your bags with out your say so. WM is too big……I will continue to fight them and not stop or show my receipt. OR JUST NOT SHOP THERE NO PROBLEM.
Evil men flourish when good men do NOTHING!!
September 1st, 2009 at 8:37 am
I was at walmart on 08/29/2009 and I tried to refuse to show my receipt The door checker was indignet to me..I pulled my receipt out and he went through all my bags and he held myreceipt in his hands and would not! let through the doors till he search bags… He was a big man and was nasty….. So tell me ?then what huh ? I called the manager she said for people stealing the manager has to see the whole thing and… they can not stop them untill the manager see the whole thing from start to finish.So then why stop me if you can’t stop a theif???????????
October 18th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Hey Meagan…
The airports can search people because U.S. Federal Law gives them that right and that authority; the people who search you at airports are NOT airport personnel, they are TSA (Transportation Safety Administration) officers. They have the legal authority to search you.
Walmart does NOT have the legal authority to search you. If they suspect you of shoplifting, legally all they can do is call the cops. However, many LP (Loss Prevention) agents of Walmart do not do this; they will physically stop you, in some cases they have even tackled people and beaten them.
There is no legal right for Walmart to do any of that. My problem with being searched is not that I’m a thief, it’s that I do not want some idiot putting their hands all over my groceries or my body when I’ve done nothing wrong.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I would like to see proof that it is illegal or not for WM to check receipts and bags at the exit. Otherwise your claim is just that…a claim and not really a fact. So quit saying WM has no legal right to ask for a receipt or look in your bags.
November 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
i went shopping at WallyWorld today and was hassled by some mentally handicapped ”hire them to make the quota employee” i refused to show my reciept and the police were called , i got a police report for the ACLU ohio reference the 4th constitutional ammendment of unlawful search, i also called a local lawyer and the ALL THE TV PEOPLE , man let me tell you there are some ”very sexxy TV chix’ here in south ohio, visit WSAZ and WVAH !!!
as of today , one day after turkey day i am sueing walmart for
$ 3,000 in small claims court , the ohio max
am also drafting a
$ 10,000,000 lawsuit in district federal court (cincincinati)
e me for updates on this riveting case that may well go to the ohio supreme court or beyond , maybe even TMZ and my fave lawyer harvey levin!!
————–>> Todd
November 29th, 2009 at 10:34 am
What so may of you are missing is that there was a transaction at the register. The “title” to the property passes to the customer when Walmart takes your money. It is YOUR property. You can remove it from the packaging and stuff it in your purse or pocket at that time.
Just imagine being stopped at the door when exiting a bank, or McDonalds, or even a 7-11 and being asked for your receipt.
December 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
After you purchase the items, the receipt and the items are yours to do whatever you want with. So you could even throw the receipt away in the store before you get to the door. Then when they ask for the receipt you could just tell them truthfully that you just threw it away and they can go get it from the trash if they want to see it.
January 15th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Ok some folks keep saying Walmart can detain you and / or search you and you have no right to refuse… So let’s imagine I own a store. You come into my store and purchase an item, then proceed to attempt to leave. At that point I tell you that store policy is that you must perform oral sex on me before you can leave because it’s “store policy.” Obviously that’s not legal… because you have a right to the privacy of your person. Yet when Walmart attempts to violate the same right, you think it’s no big deal? Yes, my example is far more ridiculous, but sometimes it takes absurdity to demonstrate absurdity.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
This is a state-by-state issue, and even changes by county or municipality. In general the OP is correct. A store my ask to see a receipt, and you might volunteer to show the receipt. It’s a matter of civil discourse, and not a matter of law. So when you join the big-box warehouse club who has you sign a membership policy, you might be in violation of contract when you refuse to show the receipt. Of course you may refuse to show the receipt anywhere, and as a privately owned place of business they may invoke their option to 1) ask you to leave, and never trespass again, 2) revoke you membership if you’re in violation of your membership agreement. In the case where they have seen you steel something, which is not just probable cause, it’s certain knowledge, they have the legal right to detain you physical. In other cases (reasonable probable cause) they can stand in your way, but not touch. In all cases they should be calling the police. The police can ask you to produce a receipt if the officer is conducting a criminal investigation. Just remember the idea of probable cause goes back to what the loss prevention employee *thinks* as opposed to what is not certain knowledge. Most courts have held the standard very high for probable cause in regard to civil arrest/detention. Usually the policy to to detain long enough to get the police called on site. Failure to comply with somebody asking for a receipt is not justifiable PC. So it gets sticky when the police are called, AND they are conducting an investigation. There has to be a tie-break, and that is where you show the officer the receipt voluntarily AND get a field report. If you push the officer with talk about not being searched while he’s conducting an investigation, guess what… that is obstruction of justice. OoJ is the most that could happen in the best case scenario.